Question:
Why is the Premier League getting stronger, yet the National Team is getting Weaker?
falconson5000
2008-04-02 04:32:24 UTC
It is really annoying me that the Premier Leage is easily the Best in the World and yet our National Team is getting weaker.

I think, it could be something to do with several factors.
1. England never play together enough. Unlike the Rugby team that plays in a major competition every year.
2. Too many non-British players in the top clubs. Arsenal - Prime Example.

Thoughts
22 answers:
2008-04-02 04:37:53 UTC
agree with no 2



plus a lot of teams stopped doing the academys for the youngsters and also a lot of schools sold off the land that would have been used to play sports on....!!
Mohaiminho K
2008-04-02 05:50:31 UTC
It's coz England never play together....you see the kind of players they are producing say from 2005-now, we have Rooney, Bentley, Agbonlahor, etc. They are individually good, but they don't play together pretty often. In club matches, they know what their teammates are all about.

But the bigger problem is that a lot of nonbritish players are there nowadays in the EPL top clubs. Arsenal has no Englis players apart form Wallcot. And maybe because the youth clubs are not working properly. Look at Manchester United, ehich had one of the best youth academies. How many homegrown players have they produced in the last 7-8 years. The young ones there feel that foreigners are being bought in their place and they, understandably, leave the club as they want to PLAY!!!

Same thing happens with most of the british clubs. i mean, yound players from Manu, Chelsea leave these clubs to join Stoke city????Are you kidding me?

And the one thing that is missing which is the most important thing is inspiration for the youngsters. i am 15 from Bangladesh and I know what i am talking about. A single World Cup tournament, a single peice of solo run by a player can inspire you to become a footballer. English kids don't have that. And for that I blame the footballers of 1990-2008.
AQUALUNG
2008-04-02 06:17:10 UTC
There is only 30% English player content in the Premiership so any comparison to the National Team is inaccurate and wrong. The National Team like any other country's national side only get together for upcoming games/tournaments; so how come the Germans, Argentinians are so consistent?!



Personally I believe that NOT one former manager of the National Team has "it" to influence, innovate and implement the strategy, the style, and the system to achieve any kind of competitive consistency.



That's why it's imperative that England (FA, media, fans, players) get behind this man and afford him the space and time to achieve the target. The task is massive. The man is Godsend. Fabio Capello is "it".
morj_uk
2008-04-02 04:58:36 UTC
Basically there is too much money at club level and not enough passion at International level.

They're an overpaid bunch of wet tossers. Play a team of Championship League players with the hunger to play for their country and then you'll see a battling spirit. They may not win all the games but it would be well worth watching!



As for some suggestions that its because Englands players don't play or link up together what rubbish!! Are you telling me France, Italy, Brazil, Argentina, Spain etc that all their National players play in the same club teams respectively???

What nonsense!! They are better players than us!! It goes far beyond our players of today. Its the youth players not being coached and nurtured at a high enough level or quality.
Dean S
2008-04-02 07:02:13 UTC
The reason your national team is getting weaker is because, with the exception of a couple of players (Rooney etc), the majority of the star players in your league are foreign. To change this, the english FA will need to put a cap on the amount of foreign players in each team, something that Sky would not allow so will never happen (as Sky Will threaten to withdraw their involvment, something that would collapse the Premiership).
Exustrek
2008-04-02 04:53:47 UTC
I agree with both points. I'd like to add to point 2 and raise point 3.



Point 2. The result of too many foreigners is that young home talent doesn't get a chance to play at the highest level and improve there. They are usually farmed out on loan to lower league clubs because experienced foreign players are available.



Point 3. Most English club fans, me included, I have to confess, would rather their club was successful than the national side. I feel guilty about this, but it's true.
2008-04-02 04:47:36 UTC
You are correct the English team get weak because they cant just fork out and buy a good player like the clubs can.



And the amount of foriegn players factor are correct and that they dont play together enough.



example Rooney playes with Man U they have English players from the international team but how many of them during a game would u say Rooney links up with on the Pitch?



yea thought so it doesnt happen that often if at all. and because the English players are on top flight teams they are constantly battling one another and never play together.



think about it i play against u all year with foriegn players then we have a game to play and u expect me to perform like i do at my club? that wont happen. it takes time and playing together consistantly to make players peform well together and top English players dont have that. Rooney knows how to link with Tevez and Ronaldo and so on, Gerrard knows how to link with Torres not Rooney why because they play together often. its really simple to diagnose the problem but it is one that is apparently hard to fix.



Unless 1 English club buy up all the good or most of the first team english players i dont see this problem being addressed. and also as a coach for the international team u will want to play those who are good at there clubs but if they can play together maybe they should be picked first. but what other choice is there.
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2016-04-05 01:37:26 UTC
Both good leagues but I think the Premiership just edges it overall. Bundesliga is much better value for money though and attendances prove this. It has also outscored the EPL all of the past seven years as well. My top ten in Europe..... EPL Bundesliga Spanish League French League Serie A French League Dutch League Portuguese League Belgian League Austrian League
2008-04-02 07:42:13 UTC
Not sure if the Premier league is getting stronger , if you take away the top four teams the league is mediocre at best.

England have many excellent football players , but you are right they do not perform well at international level. I would have to say it has got to be the management teams and their systems. Perhaps Capello will change things for the better.
kevin friend
2008-04-02 04:43:26 UTC
my theory is that the premier teams have bonded and can read each others minds, they dont have to look for where there team mate is as they already know where he is and know how his game works.

to rectify this if the national team had all the front players from the same team, all the midfield players from the same team and all the back players from the same team it may just work. the only problem being the amount of forein players in the prem that would make it hard to run this idea
2008-04-02 05:07:42 UTC
I'm sure that option 2 is the answer.

It's time that foreign players were officially retricted to maybe,

four per club, then the national team would improve dramatically and very quickly.

The England manager only has a handful of players to choose from at the present.

How the fans can support 'their team', when it is just a hotch-potch of foreigners, I really don't know !
jude
2008-04-02 06:53:32 UTC
Not enough english players in the premier league of any real quality, obviously we have good players, but not exceptional and then your reason no. 2, way too many foreign players, which can be argued both ways, good for up and coming English players, but bad for the reason above..
Sir Psycho T
2008-04-02 04:46:58 UTC
You answered you own question, if you were to take the 10 best players in the Premier League maybe 2 are British the rest are from elsewhere.
Ali VDS United
2008-04-02 05:56:35 UTC
2 is correct. Young English players aren't getting as many shots and as the already established ones get older the national outlook is pretty bleak.
Well, said Alberto
2008-04-02 04:48:56 UTC
The league looks good because of all the skillful foreigners. English players have poor technique & expect to fail.
2008-04-02 05:31:10 UTC
England's future=Aston Villa
2008-04-02 06:01:50 UTC
bcuz almost 65-70 % of players in EPL are foreign and some England players are overhyped
2008-04-02 04:49:46 UTC
Due to mass products coming from over sea's and producing the talent here, thus meaning our own talent does not get a look in. :(
Tim O
2008-04-02 04:45:04 UTC
Because Britain is a colony of the US and the US hates the English bed wetting type soccer hooligans and their pathetic, towel boy, indentured, foreign conscripts. "Although I whipped and flayed ya by the living God what made ya, yer a better man than I am Gunga Din."
2008-04-02 04:38:31 UTC
You have summed it up perfectly, though I would place more emphasis on your second point as the major contributing factor.
shazbat
2008-04-02 04:43:48 UTC
not enuf home grown talent
Red Devil
2008-04-02 04:55:05 UTC
i think u already answer your guestion


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